Shed been learning to play classical music on the violin at school when her music teacher introduced her to some of Frankie McWhorters fiddle tunes. And after we recorded it, he said, thats a really good song. I believe thats when that that became not an option. However, you can still listen with the Spotify or Apple Music playlist at the bottom of the page. Do you need the reasons why? And tell us how. That one speaks to me. SHIRES: Yeah. And Milk Cow Blues goes like this. And I know that he likes to help. And I was really into that.. Her study essentially proves that when folks cant have an abortion, it affects their mental health, their economic standing, their overall well-being. And for a lot of folks, that can be the most boring part of the three-part string ensemble thing. But finding a voice now and sharing their stories now is as good as any time. You can call me serious trouble. After trailing off there, she draws a thorny conclusion about the web of intimate, familial dependency: "Maybe being human is an orphaned condition and what's missing isn't what should be found. Amanda Shires was named emerging artist of the year at the 2017 Americana Music and Honors Awards Ceremony. SHIRES: Thank you so much. credit: John Shearer. GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. So one of the things you learned, like, I think in the past few years is that your grandfather had spent years in prison. It's a sentiment that Shires has echoed many times since. In a June 2022 follow-up, the artist detailed for Rolling Stone her experience of ending a life-threatening ectopic pregnancy in August 2021. The sound of silence rings in every room. The song is named "Parking Lot Pirouette" for its protagonist's graceful forwardness, her decisive movement to prolong a pleasurable dalliance. This is FRESH AIR. And I was still dealing with all of it two and a half weeks later. Send us a tip using our anonymous form. BRANDI CARLILE: (Singing) I was a Highwoman and a mother from my youth. Do you think God still sees me, coming out of this twilight sleep? she asks, before the band carries the song out with a powerful extended coda. I dont have certain kinds of fatigue. And one day, we wound up in the studio, and we cut the song. And but I think for the players in the band, they took me seriously as a player. Related Im not a big AA guy, but Ill go every once in a while. It was it took Dave Cobb and it took Brandi, and then it took Natalie and Maren Morris. I think a lot of women are born healers and nurturers. The spurs of hip bones Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR. So lets do that. Is that right? I was lucky. Bridget Bentz, Molly Seavy-Nesper and Kitty Eisele adapted it for the web. She has performed as a member of the Texas Playboys, Thrift Store Cowboys, and Jason Isbell & the 400 Unit, as well as in a duo with Rod Picott. And Im coming for you like a hawk for the dove. Ive found and scrounged and continued to for every interview that hes done in any form and any language. SHIRES: Ive listened to all of his records. Too caught up in the way I want you rolling over me. Having recently moved to Nashville with Shires whose own fourth solo album, Down Fell the Doves, comes out next week the newlyweds will sequester themselves in different corners of the house to write new songs, then play them for each other. Elizaveta Porodina/Courtesy of the artist, Naming The Beast: Jason Isbell And Amanda Shires On Speaking Up In 2017. I didnt want to do more damage. Or is this through listening to his records that you feel like youre his disciple? Cancelling shows feels awful, I know. And I kept imagining, like, how I had nothing left to give and nothing I could do or say to make anything feel right, like, within me somehow. And I wrote Fault Lines and then I texted it to him, just like youd imagine. The 100 Greatest TV Shows of All Time The 500 Greatest Songs of All Time Amanda Shires' To the Sunset comes out Aug. 3. Her latest album is called Take It Like A Man. Well be right back. It de-stigmatizes the conversation. GROSS: What would the right voice for you like, whats wrong what doesnt match? Did you actually meet him? So Amanda, you took fiddle lessons from Frankie McWhorter, who played with Bob Wills & The Texas Playboys from 60 to 62 62 was the year that Bob Wills had a heart attack and retired for a long time from music. GROSS: Oh, yeah. We have Olivia Rodrigo and Phoebe Bridgers speaking up, and Ariana Grande. GROSS: That your Father had spent 25 years in Alcatraz? This is FRESH AIR. I never wouldve thought that before, but now I know its true. It goes, (singing) I woke up this morning, and I looked out my door. Maintaining that vigilance and devoting necessary energy and attention to confronting and correcting not only sexual wrongdoing but warped thinking can be all-consuming. Lets get back to my interview with singer, songwriter and musician Amanda Shires. And I dont know how I feel about that. Im Terry Gross, and this is FRESH AIR. And she was doing the bail bonding on the night. When Shires was in the hospital giving birth to their daughter, Mercy, in 2015, she had to disclose to her doctor, with her husband and mother in the room, that shed had an abortion. Ninety-five percent of study participants who did have an abortion still stood by their decision. I still miss the way you lean in. All Rights Reserved. And I told my mom to come over because I had something to show her. Me and @JasonIsbell RCA studio B making a musical recording. But I think folks forget that access to abortion and reproductive healthcare is not just about terminating unwanted pregnancy. And any policing will disproportionately affect people of color, low-income folks and other marginalized groups. Amy Salit and Susan Nyakundi produced and edited this interview for broadcast. Im a big, big fan. As it turns out, it did start some conversations within our own families. As they talked, Is there a song that you could play a Leonard Cohen song you could play an excerpt of for us in tribute to him since were both such great fans? The South is in need of a lot of help, Shires tells Rolling Stone. Wade was leaked last month, Amanda Shires shared some personal news on social media. In "Leave It Alone," a song introduced by a brittle, programmed loop and a jangly, arpeggiated guitar figure, she elegantly describes exploring a new lover's body: "Hands find the places where they've never been, to know for themselves new surfaces / And mine, they've got a mind of their own / I can't leave it alone." No more? Amanda Shires and Jason Isbell depict a couple having an honest, difficult conversation about abortion in the new song The Problem.. And she was also holding down a day job as a single mom. A moonlit pass that only she would know still hears my broken song of love. GROSS: You forced yourself in the position of having him hear you play? And I said, yes, Id love to. For those who are unfamiliar, it is impossible for an ectopic pregnancy to go to term. Since publishing my op-ed, Ive heard from some folks who are in their eighties. requiring proof of vaccination or proof of a recent negative COVID test, even facing backlash from his fellow artists, Buy newspaper front pages, posters and more. On August 9, 2021 Why werent you accepting it? Warblers and wrens, hymn at my throat, shook and quivering. So I would be studying my pieces. I know they enjoy it. If writing came easier sober, playing live was terrifying at first, he says. We both know that none of that was keeping, keeping me anyhow. Well definitely get to your verse, which is the second one. And then I thought about Waylon [Jennings] and Kris [Kristofferson] and them of The Highwaymen, and I was like, They were kind of speaking about ageism. I said, Itd be cool if I had a band, The Highwomen. Then I told my friend Dave Cobb about my idea and he really liked it and he said, Im going to have you meet Brandi Carlile. And we met. Im Terry Gross. In my case, I blame the education system, but I didnt even know what an ectopic pregnancy was. Another is a freedom rider who died during the Freedom Rides. Snubbing the King: Why Don't Big Stars Want to Perform at Charles' Coronation? Jason Isbell performs in Gulf Shores, Alabama. And I think theres more valuable strength there than there is in suppressing your emotions and poisoning yourself with your own feelings, I guess. I would like to think that fans can hold their role models and their favorite musicians accountable. It was Fault Lines.. How Trump's Team Conned Susan Collins Into Dooming Roe v. Wade, Add Abortion to the List of Things Republicans Are Blaming for Uvalde, Want to Know What Politics Looks Like After Roe? Maybe I was asking for a little too much. "I'm daring to do what she couldn't bring herself to do," Shires ruminates, shadowed by her own feathery harmonies. Im glad to be a listener and also glad to see folks from those generations supporting the right to choose. 825 Eighth Avenue, New York, NY 10019, WNET is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization. 99.99%. And then it was never like, oh, they have to be on a record once I do record them. In a new interview, Shires who returns with her latest album Take It Like a Man in July goes deeper into her own experiences and calls on artists, especially those in Nashville, to start using the platforms theyve been given. And the fallopian tube just cant it it cant expand enough to accommodate a growing fetus. And after he did his time, he didnt say anything about it. Despite the many questions as to why she was undergoing the procedure which she described as having "cells removed" despite trolls labeling her a "baby killer" Shires wrote at the time, "The reasons that I chose to have an abortion are personal, and they are mine." It's a sentiment that Shires has echoed many times since. Grammy Award-winning songwriter Amanda Shires and bestselling author George Saunders discuss inspiration, songwriting, and Amanda's new song, "You Don't Get to Go." And here it sits. Trump Melts Down Over Murdoch Admitting Fox Lied About Election Fraud, If you say those things out loud, it makes a difference. Moon, in all your splendor. On August 9, 2021 my fallopian tube ruptured. Our guest will be Mark Bergen, author of the new book Like, Comment, Subscribe in which he reports on how YouTube ushered in a world of abundant content and creativity of influencers and online hustlers, of information overload and endless culture wars. SHIRES: Well, that was that parts a secret, Terry. Why was that the verse that you wrote or sang for yourself? Im going to play fiddle and Im going to sing in. The next year, she won a Grammy for best americana album as part of her husbands group, Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit. Soon after a Supreme Court draft ruling that would overturn Roe v. Wade was leaked last month, Amanda Shires shared some personal news on social media. And as it happened, eventually the auxiliary cable quit working in the van so I was left to the radio choices of sports ball and Top 40 country music. Jason Isbell and his wife, Amanda Shires, were walking around last weekend in Newport, Rhode Island, where they played the Newport Folk Festival. I would have died; my daughter, Mercy, would have lost her mother; my husband, Jason, would be a widower. Got myself a breakthrough case of Covid- feeling fine but well have to cancel the next few shows (Asheville, Louisville, Columbus, Wilkes-Barre, and Wilmington). Her new album is called Take It Like A Man.. Musician Adia Victoria also tweeted at Isbell and praised the artist for continuing to put the health and safety ofhis crew, my band, venue employees and fans first and foremost, to which he replied with three heart emojis. GROSS: So we have to take another short break here, so let me reintroduce you. So thanks to them as well. Its all control.. GROSS: OK. It took Dave Cobb and it took Brandi and then it took Natalie [Hemby] and Maren Morris. And then you also youve got guys thatll back you up. Demographer Diana Greene Foster conducted a 10-year study tracking both people who had abortions and people who were denied abortions. Every one of them except for me survived. But and after you did the main melody part, you get to improvise. I recorded my interview with her last week. And my stuff worked. All rights reserved (About Us). For the latest news, follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. GROSS: Whoa. And nobody would let me in, but I sat there anyway. I was like, Thats what I want to do, because you play this song and then you get to improvise you just play what you feel within the chord. I just fell in love with the music, is what happened. On your Twitter, you describe yourself as a disciple of Leonard Cohen. Learn more about his tour. Like, do you say, hey, honey, heres a song I wrote about how bad things are between us right now? I was learning orchestra and classical music in school and privately. GROSS: Oh, I wish he could have heard you do it. Its as opposed to being in the uterus, where it belongs. And then coupled with the pandemic and all that, he was on self-preservation mode, and I was too. And in this case, I wanted Jason to also come in and sing it, too. And then she wanted to know if it was real, so she hired a private investigator and all this. And we met. People forget that, if you take away access to reproductive healthcare, youre going to be killing moms like me. And this is after some kind of nebulous argument. And I was trying to sing that song A Little Walk With You (ph). GROSS: Amanda Shires, its been such a pleasure to talk with you. How are we going to police that? SHIRES: I didnt know I was going to work it into a song until I got to the to writing it. GROSS: How did you end up actually playing in the Texas Playboys band? Why not? And even on the charts, theres one spot usually I think in 2016, there was 13% representation of women to men on country radio, and now it still sits pleasantly at 16% on a good week. And as it happened, eventually the auxiliary cable quit working in the van. Victoria is scheduled to open for Isbell on this tour. And hes saying, you know, basically that hes going to support her and hes there for her. It was love at first listen, Shires says of the fiddle songs. And Empty Cups wasnt even the hardest one for me to put on there. Trouble, trouble, trouble, trouble, trouble. Theyre just songs because everybody goes through troubles in their relationship. I dont feel like it matches whats going on inside my brain. We found music, and then being in the Shoals area just gave us an early look at all the places music can take you. For the past decade or so, Amanda Shires has sung about the dark shades of relationships lapsed communication, broken trust, fading intimacy with a devastating eye for detail. But for me, I was just happy to be up there playing music I loved. Im your Amanda. It's not often in country musicor pop music for that matterin which an artist addresses a very personal and sensitive subject like abortion through a song. How did you decide to say that these songs are really about a bad period of your marriage? And Zachs going to play guitar. Recently, I had an ectopic pregnancy, she tweeted. Jason Isbell and Amanda Shires say they've turned in their memberships with the Country Music Association, due to the organization's "failure" to acknowledge the Thats, like, part of your identity on Twitter. When do you show him the songs? The Highwomen were tapped as last-minute fill ins, though founding member Amanda Shires was unable to attend as she continues to recover from an emergency But if you dont, youre going to be wondering, What didnt I do? And healer seemed fitting for me not only because it happened that way, but my moms a nurse. She co-founded the country supergroup The Highwomen, which includes Brandi Carlile, Maren Morris and Natalie Hemby. You can say its all my fault. But I had about seven different album sequences going on. When I would write the songs, I dont know whats going to come out, but sometimes I was just so down that the only way I could get better was to take it out on writing a song., Shires sings and plays fiddle throughout this interview. JASON ISBELL: (Singing) What do you want to do? A woman threw a house party with 65 men she matched with on Tinder and Hinge and connected with the man she's been dating for a year. 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